There is a boy here, V., who is especially interested in what happens at the moment of death (this seems to be one reason why he has reincarnated). He's a conscious boy, a remarkable clairvoyant, and he has a power. And we have had (how to put it?) some quite interesting correlations of experiences concerning people who pass away here. Extremely interesting and extraordinarily precise: he sends word to me, I reply, and at night when the disincarnated person comes he says, 'Mother has done this and says to do that,' and the person does it. And we don't need to speak - such precision!

This happens in sleep?
He might do this work in sleep, or sometimes in meditation, or in a kind of trance he enters into - it depends on the case.

page 234 - Mother's Agenda, volume 2, 24th June - 1961
I will give you a concrete example, then you'll understand. When I.B. was killed, I had to gather up all his states of being and activities, which had been dispersed by the violence of the accident [[He was run over by a truck. ]] - it was terrible, he was in a dreadful state of dispersion. For two or two and a half days the doctors fought in the hope of reviving him, but it was impossible. During those two days I gathered up all his consciousness, all of it; I collected it over his body, to the point where, when it had come and formed itself there, such vitality, such life was coming back into his body that after some hours the doctors believed he would be saved. But it couldn't last (it wasn't possible - a part of the brain had come out). Well, when not only his soul but his mental being, his vital being, and all the rest had been properly collected and organized over his body and had realized that the body had become quite unusable, it was over - they gave up the body and it was over.

I was keeping I.B. near me because I already had the idea of putting him immediately back into another body - his soul was not satisfied, it had not finished its experience (there was a whole combination of circumstances) and it wanted to continue to live on earth. Then, that night, his inner being went to find V., lamenting, saying he was dead and hadn't wanted to die, that he had lost his body and wanted to continue to live. V. was very perplexed. He let me know about it in the morning: 'Here's what has happened.' I sent word to him of what I was doing, that I was keeping I.B. in my atmosphere and that he should stay very calm and not get excited, for I was going to put him back into a body as soon as possible - I already had something in view. The same evening I.B. again went to find V., with the same complaint. V. told him very clearly, 'Here is what Mother says, here is what she is going to do; come now, be calm and don't torment yourself.' And he saw in I.B.'s face that he had understood (the inner being was taking on I.B.'s physical appearance, naturally); his face relaxed, he became content.

He went away and he never came back. That is, he stayed tranquilly with me, until I was able to put him into C'.s child.

This correlation in the work is very interesting because it has quite practical effects - V. was able to communicate exactly what I had to say to I.B., and I.B. understood better through him than through me directly (because I do the work, but don't have time to deal with all the details, to tell each individual what to do).

page 235 - Mother's Agenda, volume 2, 24th June - 1961

There's a fellow (he's neither young nor old) who has been living for twenty-five straight years at one of the sources of the Ganges, in a small cave carved into the mountainside - a tiny, bare space, an earth floor and a tiger skin. He sits on the tiger skin stark naked, without a stitch, naked as a newborn babe, in the dead of winter as well as in summer - outside everything is covered with snow. He eats ... sometimes passers-by bring him fruit, which he dries in the sun, then puts into water and drinks. That's all. He hasn't once left there in twenty-five years.

One of our children, V., a courageous boy, went up there all by himself. In winter it's completely isolated, there's nothing nearby. It was May and still frightfully cold, it seems, snow still covered the ground. And the man was sitting there stark naked as though it were perfectly natural! He even asked the boy, "Do you want to spend the night here? ..." That was a bit too much!

Anyway, V. went there, sat down next to him, and after a while the man went into a sort of trance and began to tell V. about his life (the boy's life, not his own!). So V. was interested and wanted to know more. "Where do I come from?" he asked. The man answered, "Oh, from an ashram by the sea ... the sea is there." Then he began to speak (I must mention that outwardly he knew nothing about Sri Aurobindo or me or the Ashram, absolutely nothing at all), and he told V. that a "great sage" and "the Mother" were there, and that they wanted to do something on earth that had never been done before - something very difficult. Then, I don't know whether he mentioned I was alone now (I have no idea), but he said, "Oh, she has had to withdraw [[Mother's "withdrawal" did not last long. 1962 is perhaps Mother's one quiet year. In 1963, the pitiless crowd will start up again. ]] because the people around her don't understand and ... life there has become very difficult. It will be very difficult until 1964."

Perhaps he was reading the boy's mind (I don't know), but not his conscious mind. And he said several times, "They want to do something that has never been done before, it's very difficult - very difficult - and that's why they came, to do that."

I learned about this two days ago. It interested me: "Something never done before, something entirely new."[[A few days later, Mother remarked with a kind of admiration: "It's almost a miracle for such people to admit that someone is doing something entirely new! That's the great problem with those who have attained some realization, they shut the door: 'Now we have realized what the Forefathers said, and that's enough.' So to find a man who knows nothing outwardly and who FELT that we wanted to do something never done before ... I found that extremely interesting. It means he has an opening, an opening above, higher than the ordinary spiritual atmosphere." ]]

There were many other things, but it seems he speaks a particular Hindi which is very hard to understand. But this was quite clear, and he said it several times.

It interested me.

And that's really it, that's what Sri Aurobindo came for, and what I came for. And that's what was present above my head when I was quite young: something new and very difficult (Mother smiles). Very difficult.

It seems he said that if we could make it to 1964, afterwards the difficulties would disappear. (But this is a very strong formation - what did he pick up? Is it Sri Aurobindo's formation? Is it the boy's thought, or what?...) But he's a wonderful mind-reader; he must have a marvelous power of vision in the mental world.

It really amused me. If you asked ... if you asked people here, not too many would have such a clear idea: "They have come to do something entirely new and very difficult."

It's lovely.

page 313-14 , Mother's Agenda , volume 3 , 14th Aug 1962.

Now, do you remember the story of that man who has been living at the source of the Ganges for twenty-five years?... Here he is (Mother shows his photo). He was in his cave and V. said to him, "I'd like to take your picture." "All right," he answered, and came out and sat down in the snow - stark naked.

(Mother looks at the photo) There is something in his forehead, eyes and nose (why the nose?...) that's very similar in all who have experienced the inner contact.

He's more like an example of what human beings can achieve: he's a forerunner more than a worker. He isn't a creative force on earth: he's an example.

Yes, these are "siddhis" rather than evolutionary developments: things imposed on Nature.

They are more like seeds, capacities destined to develop later in the new race, and the seed has been made to grow and bloom as an example, before the thing happens on a larger scale - they are examples.


page 343 , Mother's Agenda , volume 3 , 8th Sept 1962

I met V., he had a vision two or three days ago. He saw a peacock coming down, and on the peacock someone was sitting, erect, who wasn't Kali but like Kali (the naked Kali) and was holding in her hand the severed head of a man.
Did he see whose head it was?

No, I asked him if it was a Western head, or a Chinese one, anyway what it was. He told me it rather looked like an Asiatic head.
Asiatic, that's vague.

He told me, "I felt it was the sign of a catastrophe or a war."

It may be the sign of a victory.

Yes, he said, "Afterwards, there was peace."
V. is a very good clairvoyant.

When you spoke to me, I saw the twisted face of a Chinese.

But it could be a previous formation.


page 279 - Mother's Agenda , volume 5 , 14th Nov - 1964

What was Kali sitting on?

On the peacock. It wasn't Kali, but like Kali, and naked.
It is clearly a victory through the disappearance of a man or a country.

I don't know why, while you were speaking to me, I saw the twisted face of a Chinese.

Immediately I set to work (it lasted for hours), and the night was spent counteracting it: I tried to find which higher vibration could counteract it, until I succeeded in clarifying the atmosphere. But the memory remained very precise. And very recently (maybe a day or two ago), they told me that the Chinese had chosen an Indian territory, in the North, to test a certain kind of atomic bomb, and that they had exploded a certain bomb there. When they told me this, the memory of my odor abruptly came back. [[The Chinese exploded their bomb on October 16, the day after Khrushchev's dismissal. ]]

So when I said that ["the twisted face of a Chinese"], it seems to be beside the point, but that's because when those two things coincided, [[Mother is probably referring to the Chinese explosion and Khrushchev's dismissal (?). ]] Kali suddenly became furious - I saw Kali furious, as when

she decides that it will be "paid for." So V.'s vision adds a few landmarks.

Oh, you know, when she goes into a fit of power ... you really feel that the earth is shaking.

page 280-83 - Mother's Agenda , volume 5 , 14th Nov - 1964

V. has again seen something. Something unexpected. Everyevening, he comes to meditate at the Samadhi, and there he has

never seen anything in his whole life: for years there has just

been Sri Aurobindo, that's all, never anything else. The other

day he came, and all of a sudden he had a vision: he saw Kali

coming out of the Samadhi from the spot where Sri Aurobindo's

head is - an all-blue Kali, covered with gold ornaments.

On which day?

Some four or five days ago.

What surprised him was that instead of being naked, she was covered with gold.


Never mind, what did you say about Kali?

What surprised him was that she was covered with gold instead of being naked.
She was coming out of the Samadhi? No, that doesn't surprise me. [[Let us recall that gold is the color of the supramental. ]] But my reflection was regarding Bharatidi.... That is to say, she mustn't die, because that's a very bad place to die.


page 308 , Mother's Agenda , volume 9 , 6th Nov - 1968